Damn, sam. My question to ChatGBT:

can you attempt an estimate [of MGTOW numbers] based on other proxies like divorces, dating, rate of marriage?

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Post-election, angry women threaten to withhold sex and marriage from men. Sorry, baby, but men already beat you to the punch, you just weren’t paying attention. My DEFCON proposal in 2017 identified MGTOW as a significant factor in Trump’s 2016 election... MGTOW - Men Going Their Own Way. The last
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My own estimate has been 10-15 million for many years based on Google Trends comparisons and personal experience but I hadn't mentioned it to ChatGBT. Here's its abbreviated answer:

Estimating the number of men aligned with MGTOW or the Men’s Rights Movement (MRM) using proxies like divorce rates, declining marriage rates, or dating trends is challenging but possible for approximation. Let’s analyze some key data points:

  1. Decline in Marriage Rates
  2. Divorce Rates
  3. Dating Trends
  4. Global Context
    Based on these proxies, tens of millions of men worldwide could be considered aligned with MGTOW or MRM philosophies to some extent, whether they formally identify with these movements or not.
    For example:
    U.S.: 5–10 million (based on singles and divorced men aligning with MGTOW/MRM).

Wow, we agreed on ten million. That's a major reason Trump was elected twice. American men are weary of pussy privilege but we still live in the Age Of Neo-Bullshit, so they're "misogynistic". Sorry, ladies, it's too much work to hate you, it's easier to just ignore you.
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